Posted by Abraham Apollo on December 29, 2000 at 14:28:39:
In Reply to: Re: Re: To Brother Fahim Regarding Clarence 13X posted by BRO. SHADI on December 29, 2000 at 12:43:09:
Peace,
I hear you Brother Shadi but unfortunately your logic is flawed. and as a matter of fact so is Minister Salem Shah's(Although the Minister's logic isn't as flawed as yours)
To Minister Salem Shah I am responding to your post Re: To brother Fahim regarding Clarence 13x. However as I am not looking at it (My screen is on Brother Shadi's post) You said something about how I'm not right and exact because I pray to myself and the Messenger never taught us to pray to ourselves. (if I am mis-quoting you I sincerely apologize. But I do not pray to myself. Just because Brother Fahim claims to pray to himself don't put any words in my mouth.
But lets get back to what Brother Shadi had to say. I don't know what you think you know about me but I'll tell you a few things.
First of all I was born in 1973. So forgive me for not being a member of the nation under The Honorable Elijah Muhammad but I was still learing to walk. I hope you understand.
Although I'm unclear what your main point is in your post you seem to be saying that I am 'bad'. My time is too valuable to argue every single point you raised as I am unclear what your main point was I will say a few things and move on.
In the research that I have done (Soul on Ice-Eldridge Cleaver, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, Little X(I can't remember the author's first name but her last name is Ali(she grew up Mgt), Muhammad Ali's autobiography, The theology of time paperback edition and countless research I have done online and at the library) when I walked in the Mosque a couple of months ago for the first time I had no idea what to expect. I have been back several times and I have no 'old nation' to compare it to. But one thing I have observed is that people romantisize The nation when the Messenger was alive and claim that it has gone downhill ever since. I am willing to bet my left arm that the same thing will happen when Minister Farrakhan dies. People will say how great he was and the nation isn't the same. And when Minister Farrakhan's replacement dies the same thing will be said. And so on, and so on, and so on. As a matter of fact I heard there was the same talk of poor leadership after Master Fard Muhammad departed in 1934.
Also Most of the people opposed to the 5% are using cirular logic because they are simultaneously arguing that one should not be a member of the nation under Minister Farrakhan and instead they should just stick to the teachings of The Messenger, just as long as you do not study lessons. If that isn't circular, self defeating, oxymoronical logic than I don't know what is.